Friday, July 15, 2005

Which do you think is better???

There are two ways to teach grammar.

★One way is to explain the rules and have students practice the rules. This is calles "deductive approach".

: When you want to say about a singular form of the three person, you put "-s" at the ending of verbs. But there are some verbs to put "-es" and some verbs to change different forms.
① like ⇒ likes (put "~s")
play ⇒plays
② watch ⇒ watches (put "~es")
③ have ⇒ has (different forms)

T: Let's practice !!!                                                                             
Fill in the blanks.
1, I like baseball. ⇒ He ___ baseball.
2, I watch TV everyday. ⇒ She ____ TV everyday.
3, I have a little rabbit. ⇒ Shin ____ a little rabbit.

★The other way is to show the picture or example sentenses and have them notice the rules. This is called "inductive approach".

: I would like you to find the rules from the following sentenses.

1,I like baseball.
2, We have a party.
3,They study English.
4,She plays the piano.
5,He likes red.
6,Mike eats breakfast every morning.

C: I think that when the subject is "I" , "we" and "they", we don't need to do anythig. But when the subject is "he", "she" and someone's name, we put "~s" or "~es" or change into the different forms.

T: Yes, that's right.
When the subject is a singular third person, we need to put "~s" or "~es" or change it to the different words, but we don't need to change forms in others.

Which method do you use???  BY  SNIFFLES!


gami said...

I will use both of methods one after the another, because I think each of methods have good points. If we use the deductive approach, we will be able to teach students the grammar correctly and quickly. And if we use the inductive approach, we will be able to use students' imagination and ability to guess to help them understand the material. I think if students could notice the new material, they will not forget is easily.
I think it is important for teachers to mix both of methods.

nyanji said...

I agree with "gami". I will use both two methods. I use deductive approach after Inductive approach, beccause I want students to think of the grammar rule. If they can find out the rule, What teacher should do is only making sure of.
It is important for each students to think. I think this way is enable them to learn.

keena said...

I think "Inductive approach" is better because if students can find a grammatical rule by themselves, it might be harder for them to forget the rule than just learning from a teacher. For a teacher, it is better to ask students a question before explaining a grammatical rule than to just explain the rule.
I also think "Inductive approach" is something like giving a mystery. Starting class with mystery is very effective to attract students to the class. Student might try to find a grammatical rule, just like solving a mystery. Finally, this process will lead to learning grammar surely.

team_orepan said...

I agree with "gami", but I have different opinion a little.

I mainly use deductive approach because I want students to have many exercise to practice. We teach English in a quite limited time, 105 class a year by 50 min. If I use inductive approach, there is no enough time to make students use English. To have students speak/write English, we have to save the time.

Inductive approach is useful for memorize something deeply, but only some students, always those who go to cram school, notice the important points in the class. So to be aquired something, I think it is better to teach the grammar point first, then use many in the Jr high situation.

We can create more interesting class with the deductive approach with our imagination.
The problem is how to do.

Anonymous said...

Hi all, it's a beautiful day here in Hokkaido!
Well, I normally use the deductive approach in my class because it's easier for me...I must admit that I am not a very good teacher.
Seriously, using the inductive method in a classroom with 40 students doesn't seem effective to me. I could use it, but in that case most of my students will give up to take part in the discussion.
But it could be interesting for a small class with several students who are keen to lean English. Like a collage level class. I wish I could purely enjoy my teaching without getting annoyed by some devilish kids...

Anonymous said...

Sorry I forgot to put my name in the last comment. It was from Atz.


forestsheep said...

I think that teachers should teach the grammar with both methods. I also think that students cannot remember the grammar if teachers teach with only one method.
When students study, there are needed the finding and the acquisition of knowledge. So I think that on the first stage, teachers had better use the inductive approach and on the next stage, teachers had better use the deductive approach.
Teachers using both methods aptly, students' ability will change better.

tommy said...

Hi.(^o^) Today will be very hot day.
I want to use the secound method, "inductive approach". Because students join in grammer class, which have picture, example sentenses and quizes, positively. But I should devise them. For example, I distingush words "-s","-es" by using different colors. And it is easy for students to notice differences. I think students will enjoy looking for them.
After that, we had better confirm the rules, and practice again and again. I think itis important to repeat drills.

tomy said...

If I were a student, Inductive approach made me think that the teacher have students study English. Learning language should be voluntary, in my opinion, so deductive approach sounds better. But, there seems to be a ploblem in deductive approach. It may be difficult for students to notice the difference. The students don't know EVERY verb in English, so some students may think "like" and "likes" are another verbs which has different meaning. That's why the teacher should pay their students attentions to notice the difference easily such as teaching the meaning of sentences in Japanese, and making students notice "like" and "likes"
are same verbs.

rice said...

I also think teachers had better use both approaches. Both of them have good points.
I think inductive approach is good because students can guess the rules, and hard to forget them. But it is possible for students not to guess and not to understand them. It seems to difficult for junior high school students. Deductive approach may be effective for teachers especially because they can teach the rules efficiently. However, the important thing is that all students can understand the rules cleary. I think deductive approach is easier to understand than inductive approach. So I will use deductive approach.

riverdance said...

I may use "Deductive approach" but it depends on the unit which we study. There are 2 reasons,
1. We don't have much time to do "Inductive approach".
2. If the students meet very difficult sentences, they can't notice or understand.
The students could not notice the rule if they don't have a basic knowledge about it.

But, I also think using too much "Deductive approach" is not good. So I might prepare some inductive lesson.

In short, we can pick up a nice part of the each ways. So we don't have to decide "Which is better?"

apple said...

First,My opinion was "inductive approach was better!".Because Student could find the rule by themselves ,so this way was hard for them to forget the rule. By the grace of a teacher who teach in Hokkaido,I changed my opinion.I thought "deductive approach was useful for big class.And inductive approach was useful for small class.Because there were active student and negative students in big class.And there are the difference of English abilities.

There were few friends who have opinions both approaches were better.I agree with them. But I think it needs a lot of time to teach the rule.

kan said...

I use both methods. Which methods I use, it will depend on my students and the day's grammer points. Only one method will make our class bored and stereotype. We have to use both methods thinking student's condition, atmosphere and many things.

guwashi said...

Basically I want students to learn by Inductive approach, but this depends on the learning contents. In this the third person, I want students to learn by Inductive and it is possible for them to learn the unit, because the third person has a clearly rule, so they can find the rule easily. But I think we will be in case we should use Deductive approach. It cannot help using the approach. It is important to consider which approaches we should choice.

Sari said...

I will use both of method as the case may be.They have a lot of good points.Showing pictures or example has a great impact for students.Junior high school students will be able to understand easily.But,only inductive approach will be nonsense.By doing deductive approach as making sure, we can teach certainly.I think both of method is important.Especially, deductive approach is needed.

tunobue said...

I want to use inductive approach. Because in the case, for students, we can give oppotunities to notice some roles.
To notice oneself is very important, I think. But, this way take very long time to teach grammars. So, I really use both material to teach.

ayu said...

I think both methods have some good points and bad points.I would like to use inductive approach than deductive approach if it were possible.Because I think deductive approach tends to make students bored. In contrast to it, inductive approach can attract students' attention I think. In this approach, students can use their imagination. It is effctive way to learn new materials. But if we only used this method, it might not be effective, I think. So we should choice the one of the method depends on the circumstances or mix them.

peanuts said...

Hi!! I guessed these were American style and Japanese style. I had seen the "CM" that Japanese "tashizan" style was "1+6=□" but American style was "□+□=7". The former was deductive approach and the latter was inductive approach. I thought the inductive approach was better. Because, it will give children or students many thinking pleasure than deductive approach. Also, as the latter have many answer, children can have various answer. This is same things in English. I think education was better the active than the passive.

RYO said...

I think induction approach is better.Because, it is important to understand by oneself.But if I teach grammer,al of students can notice that point?? I worry about that. So, we should use that two pattern. We should be carefull in our choice according to cercumstance or use both of two.

m&m said...

I’d like to use inductive approach to teach English. I think the student’s ability of thinking will increase by using inductive approach. Since the students try to find the rule from given examples, their brains work well.
I’d like to use inductive approach, but I may not use it. That’s because this approach takes a lot of time. The number of English class par week in junior high school has been getting fewer. So, it is difficult to take a lot of time to one lesson.

samma said...

Hi!!It was from samma.
I want to use "inductive approach". Because it is important for learners to think and find out the law to a problem.Also, "deductive approach" is passive learning, I think. As an introduction of the beginning of the class, "inductive approach" is an effective measure.

Lucy said...

I will use the inductive approach ,because it is more meaningful . I think that deductive approach is similiar to behaviorism methodology and this kind of methodology doesn't help the student understand the grammar in a useful way ,they will only memorize the verbs for a period of time .

Lucy said...

I will use the inductive approach ,because it is more meaningful . I think that deductive approach is similiar to behaviorism methodology and this kind of methodology doesn't help the student understand the grammar in a useful way ,they will only memorize the verbs for a period of time .

Anonymous said...

Hello, I would like to give my oppinion concerning inductive and deductive approaches. Well, in my oppinion inductive is very much effective, because the purpose is that learners use the thinking method, not just memorize what the teacher tells them. In my case when I went to school, I used to memorize the rules, for the purpose of passing a test, but in the end none of that teaching was effective. Deductive method should be used only to reinforce the rule, to make sure that the learner, did actually learned the point of the rule.

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Anonymous said...

for me i determine the approach that i will use according to my students` nature and their abilities and which way they prefered most.i prefer to mix between both approaches to make good use of each one